Saturday, November 14, 2009

Frank Shamrock suspended for behavior in fight with Baroni?

I've heard that Frank is facing a suspension for his behavior in the fight against Baroni, some people think it was because of his excessive taunting and motioning he was going to put Baroni to sleep but thats happened in lots of fights it seems pretty obvious to me that it was because he pushed and then kicked Phil Baroni while he was unconcious, it was completely disrespectful and uncalled for. Matter of fact it was so disgusting that you can only see it if you watched it live, it was edited out of the Showtime replay. Yeah Frank dominated Baroni and may have even be injured doing it but he lost all of my respect. I totally agree he should be suspended that kind of behavior in the ring/cage is unexceptable, what do you think?

Frank Shamrock suspended for behavior in fight with Baroni?
The "you're going to sleep" taunts were surreal.. He did the pillow thing and then immediately dropped Baroni after. I don't think there's any problem with that.





Like most people I was sickened by the kick after the fight. I saw it last weekend and it wasn't edited out luckily. He should at least be fined for that crap. If MMA is to completely lose it's image of nothing but bar fights, Frank should be fined and/or suspended. Make an example out of him to stop stupidity like this in the future.





EDIT: I wanted to add Showtime was obviously displeased with the post fight actions if they cut it out of the later replays. Showtime could put alot of pressure on EliteXC or Strikeforce to do something about it.
Reply:I watched the fight on Showtime and saw the push and kick. Not that it was right, but did you notice in the replays that Frank's leg was pinned under Phil's body when it was over? Frank wanted out of there. That's just the way Frank is. Short on temper, fast on actions.





As for Frank's supension, I was unaware of that. However, I just picked up the following from the Sherdog MMA site, dated July 3rd. Interesting reading.





Middleweight Phil Baroni tested positive for Boldenone and Stanozolol Metabolites, the California State Athletic Commission announced Tuesday afternoon. The 31-year-old from Long Island, New York has been fined $2,500 and suspended 365 days from the conclusion of his loss against Frank Shamrock on June 22 in San Jose. The final 51 days of that suspension will be fulfilled at the start of Baroni's next licensing year, should he decide to reapply.





Looks like Phil is in trouble for sure.
Reply:That was terrible...F. Shamrock should be suspended for such actions. The kicking and pushing were uncalled for, and the Atomic Wedgie was right out!! nm
Reply:Both of these fighters taunted and insulted each other I believe long before the fight. It was hyped as a fight with a personal edge to it and I think Showtime and the organization have to take some responsibility for it also-not just Shamrock. Also in a match like that where there are bad intentions or bad blood exists the refs have to be very quick to step in and assert themselves. While I don't think that the referee was a factor in this match per say a short suspension and fine would be in order to help serve notice to any and all fighters in the future that they want a professional contest or fight, rules are enforced, and a certain amount of responsibility is born by each fighter for his actions at the end of the fight after the match was ended or before it is officially started. As for his actions during the fight with the taunting it is nothing more than one fighter playing head games being played and the ref can step in and stop that at the appropriate time also and if I remember right I believe he did and he told them to fight or to keep fightng.





While I don't know Shamrock personally I think he may look at a short suspension and a small fine with an open mind and admit that he broke the rules a little after the match had ended and some kind of penalty was in order. The other point about all this is of course that you enforce those rules and penalties on everyone equally across the board.
Reply:http://www.frankshamrock.com/


Frank is a Great Legend and Champion


as is Baroni


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Baroni


just got out of hand


MMA needs to represent either Bar Tough Guy Fighters or Martial Artists if it wants to be MMA


DIscipline is more than just learning to hit.
Reply:He also punched him in back of the head. Look brother, MMA is barbaric in it's essence. These guys are trying to basically destroy each other and I'm surprised no one has died yet. I absolutely agree with you that these guys should respect each other more for the courage it takes to get in there. I hate to see these guys talking sh*t to each other before fights in the media and at the weigh ins. I don't even know why they allow it and if I was Dana White and the UFC I would make them stop This is the problem I hve with Dana White, he is like Vince MacMahon and he lets these guys act like pro wreslers in oreder to create the hype machine. This is why you have drunken fans booing fighters and fighting in the stands. They actually booed Baroni, after he fought his azz off, they were booing him like a bunch of jackals. These things make me not like MMA because I do not want to associate myself with other MMA fans like that. You never see Fedor talking sh*t, Randy Couture never disrespects anybody neither does the Iceman. I root for all the guys with class and hope those other guys that disrespect get their azz handed to them. Shamrock and Baroni have been talking bad about each other for years. This is what happens when you get two alpha males together on a big stage with everyone kissing their azz and telling how great they are. Personally I wish they would all just shut the f*ck up and fight.
Reply:Frank is a shell of his former self. He needs to come to the UFC to get his head knocked off by Anderson Silva.
Reply:I didn't know about the taunting and motioning, but I saw the fight, the last kick and shove while Baroni was out cold was completely uncalled for and disrespecful. Frank is respected and he should know better as to set this kind of example.





I have a new respect for Baroni though, he NEVER stop fighting, he might be a dick, but he earned my respect.
Reply:idk
Reply:worse has been done in MMA.....how long have you been watching?? it wasnt too bad what he did...i believe all this is over all the trash talk that was going on before hand..people have chosen thier sides and well will look for reasons to put down the victor....there has to be an outlet somewhere for those of us who chose the pretty boy.....
Reply:I think they should suspend him....he's walking and talking like he owns the sport and like he's above everyone else that came along when he was out of the game. He disrespected Renzo in the first EliteXC event after he threw illegal elbows to the back of the head.....he called out Renzo saying that why is he faking it and that he should of came to fight. Bottom line they should suspend him and bring him back to the reality.
Reply:So he suspended for taunting. Oh well next time he won't call himself a New York Bad @ss when he get his @ss kicked





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